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	<title>Comments on: Third Rail of Immigration Politics</title>
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		<title>By: Independent Mind</title>
		<link>http://national.teambio.org/2007/11/20/third-rail-of-immigration-politics/#comment-3462</link>
		<dc:creator>Independent Mind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 04:33:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a very simple way of stopping criminal aliens and encouraging them to return to their home countries. Simply change the law to make it a crime to hire criminal aliens, punishable by a hefty fine and a mandatory jail sentence. It is already a crime, you say? Actually, it isn't. It IS a crime to KNOWINGLY hire an illegal immigrant, but all you have to do is say you didn't know, and you get away with it almost every time. Make that change to the law, and let the Department of Homeland Security actually do their work without unreasonable restrictions, and the jobs available to criminal aliens will eventually dry up.

I agree with putting up a fence along both our Northern and Southern Borders. Good fences make good neighbors. I realize that only honest people will respect our fences and only cross at designated border crossings as the law requires, but catching someone on the fence or right after they hop the fence shows intent to break our laws.

With regard to children of criminal alien parents that are born within the US, I believe such children should not be US Citizens and should be required to leave with their parents. 

As for Ronald Reagan believing in amnesty, he didn't. He did sign the last and only amnesty bill into law, but that law was written by a democrat controlled Congress. In addition, he only signed the bill after he made it clear that it would be the only amnesty program and employers would be heavily fined for hiring illegals afterwards. Unfortunately, the INS was not allowed to go after employers, and the amnesty program only encouraged additional criminal alien crossings!

We don't need a guest worker program! There is already a program out there! The reason it is not used, is because employers are required to provide minimum wage and shelter for their workers! They don't want to do that, so the criminal alien migration continues.

Oh, there is a way to ensure the removal of all criminal aliens in the country. What you do is pass a law granting blanket voluntary departure for a one year period. If Homeland Security catches you within that time frame, you are automatically granted voluntary departure if it is the first time you've been caught and you have no other criminal history. The second time you are caught, you are ordered removed by an immigration judge and are not allowed to enter legally for five years. The Immigration Judge cannot grant voluntary departure or relief from deportation. The third time, you are ordered removed without the necessity or right to a hearing before an immigration judge and are barred from entering for life. The fourth time, you are subject to criminal prosecution with a minimum sentence of two years incarceration and five years probation and again a mandatory deportation for life. Subsequent arrests increase those penalties. 

After the year period of blanket voluntary departure, if you are caught by Homeland Security, you are ordered removed by an Immigration Judge for ten years and on and on. Immigration Judges would not be able to grant any sort of relief from deportation. Radio and television stations on public airwaves would be required to put out public service announcements explaining that those here illegally must depart and apply for an immigrant visa the right way. 

After all of this, allow Homeland Security to do their jobs and pick up criminal aliens wherever they may be found. Take away all Federal funding of any city that offers sanctuary to criminal aliens. Take away foreign aid from countries like Mexico that encourage their people to come here illegally. 

That is my solution to the problem. Some of you may think it is a bit draconian, but I don't think it is fair to those people who came here legally, often waiting for years to get their immigrant visas, to allow a path to citizenship to those who snubbed their noses to our laws.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a very simple way of stopping criminal aliens and encouraging them to return to their home countries. Simply change the law to make it a crime to hire criminal aliens, punishable by a hefty fine and a mandatory jail sentence. It is already a crime, you say? Actually, it isn&#8217;t. It IS a crime to KNOWINGLY hire an illegal immigrant, but all you have to do is say you didn&#8217;t know, and you get away with it almost every time. Make that change to the law, and let the Department of Homeland Security actually do their work without unreasonable restrictions, and the jobs available to criminal aliens will eventually dry up.</p>
<p>I agree with putting up a fence along both our Northern and Southern Borders. Good fences make good neighbors. I realize that only honest people will respect our fences and only cross at designated border crossings as the law requires, but catching someone on the fence or right after they hop the fence shows intent to break our laws.</p>
<p>With regard to children of criminal alien parents that are born within the US, I believe such children should not be US Citizens and should be required to leave with their parents. </p>
<p>As for Ronald Reagan believing in amnesty, he didn&#8217;t. He did sign the last and only amnesty bill into law, but that law was written by a democrat controlled Congress. In addition, he only signed the bill after he made it clear that it would be the only amnesty program and employers would be heavily fined for hiring illegals afterwards. Unfortunately, the INS was not allowed to go after employers, and the amnesty program only encouraged additional criminal alien crossings!</p>
<p>We don&#8217;t need a guest worker program! There is already a program out there! The reason it is not used, is because employers are required to provide minimum wage and shelter for their workers! They don&#8217;t want to do that, so the criminal alien migration continues.</p>
<p>Oh, there is a way to ensure the removal of all criminal aliens in the country. What you do is pass a law granting blanket voluntary departure for a one year period. If Homeland Security catches you within that time frame, you are automatically granted voluntary departure if it is the first time you&#8217;ve been caught and you have no other criminal history. The second time you are caught, you are ordered removed by an immigration judge and are not allowed to enter legally for five years. The Immigration Judge cannot grant voluntary departure or relief from deportation. The third time, you are ordered removed without the necessity or right to a hearing before an immigration judge and are barred from entering for life. The fourth time, you are subject to criminal prosecution with a minimum sentence of two years incarceration and five years probation and again a mandatory deportation for life. Subsequent arrests increase those penalties. </p>
<p>After the year period of blanket voluntary departure, if you are caught by Homeland Security, you are ordered removed by an Immigration Judge for ten years and on and on. Immigration Judges would not be able to grant any sort of relief from deportation. Radio and television stations on public airwaves would be required to put out public service announcements explaining that those here illegally must depart and apply for an immigrant visa the right way. </p>
<p>After all of this, allow Homeland Security to do their jobs and pick up criminal aliens wherever they may be found. Take away all Federal funding of any city that offers sanctuary to criminal aliens. Take away foreign aid from countries like Mexico that encourage their people to come here illegally. </p>
<p>That is my solution to the problem. Some of you may think it is a bit draconian, but I don&#8217;t think it is fair to those people who came here legally, often waiting for years to get their immigrant visas, to allow a path to citizenship to those who snubbed their noses to our laws.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew O'Keefe</title>
		<link>http://national.teambio.org/2007/11/20/third-rail-of-immigration-politics/#comment-3414</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew O'Keefe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 04:48:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Paul and Lisa for talking about the issue.  Or venturing a little past it.  Debate on the issue is needed and if the candidates need a pointer or two then we the people need to offer it.  They obviously are backing up and away from it just as the Congress has the last few rounds that they had a swing at it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Paul and Lisa for talking about the issue.  Or venturing a little past it.  Debate on the issue is needed and if the candidates need a pointer or two then we the people need to offer it.  They obviously are backing up and away from it just as the Congress has the last few rounds that they had a swing at it.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Watson</title>
		<link>http://national.teambio.org/2007/11/20/third-rail-of-immigration-politics/#comment-3410</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Watson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 21:19:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>However, we are geting off topic by quite a long way. So that's it for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>However, we are geting off topic by quite a long way. So that&#8217;s it for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Watson</title>
		<link>http://national.teambio.org/2007/11/20/third-rail-of-immigration-politics/#comment-3409</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Watson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 21:13:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lisa,
A colleague of mine gave birth to twins, at 24 weeks below 500 grams. They're still alive. You're still talking out your arse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lisa,<br />
A colleague of mine gave birth to twins, at 24 weeks below 500 grams. They&#8217;re still alive. You&#8217;re still talking out your arse.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
		<link>http://national.teambio.org/2007/11/20/third-rail-of-immigration-politics/#comment-3407</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 20:40:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found this written by a hospital worker here:

I work in a hospital and work with high risk infants. In this hospital, 70% of our children have Medicaid. Our physicians do not discriminate based on insurance. So, in a sense, our medicine is "socialized" because these children are going to get help and they do. They get excellent care.

One of the number one reasons that the United States has a higher infant mortality rate is that we consider an infant "viable" at as early as 24 weeks of age, 500 grams, etc. 

I think we need to work on fixing the factors that contribute to prematurity rather than making blanket statements about healthcare.
1 week ago 
Report It Asker's Rating:  Asker's Comment: great points, older moms, these things are adding up to a negative for babies Is this what you are searching for?Rating: Good Answer Rating: Bad Answer</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found this written by a hospital worker here:</p>
<p>I work in a hospital and work with high risk infants. In this hospital, 70% of our children have Medicaid. Our physicians do not discriminate based on insurance. So, in a sense, our medicine is &#8220;socialized&#8221; because these children are going to get help and they do. They get excellent care.</p>
<p>One of the number one reasons that the United States has a higher infant mortality rate is that we consider an infant &#8220;viable&#8221; at as early as 24 weeks of age, 500 grams, etc. </p>
<p>I think we need to work on fixing the factors that contribute to prematurity rather than making blanket statements about healthcare.<br />
1 week ago<br />
Report It Asker&#8217;s Rating:  Asker&#8217;s Comment: great points, older moms, these things are adding up to a negative for babies Is this what you are searching for?Rating: Good Answer Rating: Bad Answer</p>
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